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In the interview, the Associated Press reporter asked that some people in foreign countries are more critical of Huawei, and who is the company controlled by Huawei? Who has the decision-making power in Huawei? We now see that the top board and CEO of Huawei organization are Chinese. Does Huawei consider introducing foreign employees on the board of directors or appointing a foreign employee to serve as the company’s CEO, thus further earning foreign trust. If it is not within your consideration, why not consider it?

Ren Zhengfei said that first, foreign employees must have this ability. Second, foreign employees must work for Huawei for 25 years and rise from the grassroots level to understand the structure of the entire company. Some Western CEOs have changed like “walking lights”. For a few times, this company is gone. Because this CEO does not understand the actual situation at the grassroots level, thinking that drinking wine and talking about philosophy can lead the company.

Some of our country representatives and product line supervisors are already foreign employees, and a large number of senior experts and Fellow are expatriate employees. Of course, you are also welcome to recommend us to the CEO and the chairman of the board. You can send it to Africa first, go to the island of Comoros to exercise “one person, one kitchen, one dog”, and then go to some places for technical training. You are fully aware of Huawei’s business and future. It is also possible to come up.

Why are many Western companies doing bad now? Because the board of directors of Western companies is picking people everywhere, the person chosen is very powerful. They come here to take advantage of the leverage and enlarge the product a lot. If they can’t sell it, they will lower the price and may sell the company to death.

Joe McDonald, Associated Press correspondent in China: I am very happy that Mr. Ren met with us today and I know that you are very busy and very happy to give this time to exchange.

Ren Zhengfei: I am also very glad that you came to visit me because I have the opportunity to tell more people about our situation.

Joe McDonald: Last night in Washington, the US government decided to delay the “temporary license” for purchasing American products for another 90 days. How was your reaction to this matter? What is the difference between this “90 days” for Huawei? To what extent does Huawei need the US products and components involved in the entity list?

Ren Zhengfei: This is also a good thing. Both sides should calmly think about it. First, the US should pay more attention to the sanctions on Huawei’s entity list. Is Huawei’s loss a lot, or is the US company losing a lot? Should study it well, is it still necessary to keep such a list of entities? I support globalization from beginning to end. Only globalization can achieve high-quality resource allocation and provide high-quality services to customers. Globalization has been hard-won after decades of efforts. Producing a new market split is not good for the United States. After all, the United States is currently the country with the strongest global high-tech capabilities and the country with the greatest vested interests in the global high-tech market.

Second, as for the extension or non-prolongation of the “temporary license”, it has little impact on Huawei. From 5G to the core network of a series of products, we can survive without relying on the United States. Yesterday, we also saw these complete products that do not rely on American devices. The modified circuit board needs a short-term switching run-in. After the running-in is completed, the production capacity will be greatly improved.

The list of entities that have the biggest impact on us is the terminal, because Android software has been used by billions of users in the world, and now it restricts Huawei’s terminal to use Google software, which is irrelevant to national security. If the United States is still banned from using Huawei, we may also have backup measures to make it. After all, Google is a very good company, we have a sincere cooperation agreement with Google, we hope to continue to use Google products. We continue to use Google, in fact, it has expanded the scope of application of American technology in the world.

If Google’s Android and Microsoft’s Windows can’t give us authorization, there may be a third system to replace them. No one can be sure that the third system will not win. This is the most threatening to the US. .

For us, the past few months have proved that the list of entities is unlikely to let Huawei die, Huawei will certainly continue to survive, and the better the better. In this case, is the purpose of the entity list reached? It may not be possible, and the consequence is that China and other countries will produce substitute products. In the markets covered by the substitute products, American products will not enter, and the market size of American manufacturers will shrink, and its financial quality will be weaken. We don’t want to provoke confrontation. We still hope to continue to buy American parts. Although we can produce parts by ourselves, we can reduce production and buy a lot of American parts to serve the prosperity of mankind.

Joe McDonald: You have met many foreign journalists this year. Before that, you have not seen reporters for a long time. This year, how often do you communicate with reporters in order to repair Huawei’s reputation and improve Huawei’s operating environment while the US is putting pressure on Huawei? Have you made any of these efforts? Has Huawei’s operating environment been improved? Has the reputation been fixed?

Ren Zhengfei: Your analysis is correct. I have to stand up in times of crisis and do some publicity for Huawei. After the list of US entities came out in May, the vast majority of the media and some companies thought that Huawei was dead. There is also a paradox that Huawei can live for three months, and that the stock of materials will be produced, and it will die. The media has seen an increase, and the media has a saying that Ren Zhengfei is singing “empty city plan.” In the past six months, more than 2,000 journalists visited Huawei. After actually reading our reality, they learned that Huawei is living alive and the efficiency of living is getting higher. The media reports changed from the first black to the dark gray in the previous period, and recently changed to light gray, indicating that it still works. If I only personally communicate with the media and let the media look at the actual situation, the credibility is still not high.

Ken Moritsugu, President of the Associated Press Beijing Branch: Your daughter was arrested in Canada last December. This year, Huawei and the United States have tight trade relations, and the United States has included Huawei in the entity list. Is this stage the biggest crisis for Huawei? Or is there any other similar crisis in history?

Ren Zhengfei: In fact, the crisis of Huawei in the past 30 years has been constant. It is not this crisis, it is the crisis, and some crises are even serious enough to endanger the life of enterprises. Therefore, the US crisis is a big blow to us, but it is not very big. In the past, we have neither talents nor technology, no funds and markets, and we don’t know if we can live tomorrow. The crisis at that time may be bigger than today. Now this crisis, after all, we have a certain scale and ability, we are likely to overcome, so I did not feel how terrible.

Joe McDonald: President Trump also hinted that if the Chinese government is willing to reach a certain degree of consensus with the United States on the trade agreement, he will not slap on Huawei and remove Huawei from the list of entities. Or further change the condition of your daughter. How did you react to President Trump’s statement? He seems to use Huawei as a pawn or a bargaining chip in Sino-US trade negotiations. What reaction do you have to this statement?

Ren Zhengfei: If we can solve the problem through this “pawn”, it sounds good, but if the Chinese country makes concessions for us, I will not promote it. This is a problem between the state and the country. After all, we have money and we can afford to fight. Many Chinese people are poor. Let the poor people give some benefits to the United States to save a rich Huawei. I can’t go through it. Therefore, I believe that I can insist on playing for many years, including my daughter’s many crimes and the inability to give China’s interests to the United States. In fact, the United States should also see that there are still many poor people in China, and their lives are still at a low level.

Therefore, at this point, I have not considered it at all. I will not ask the Chinese government for the benefit of the United States and let Huawei be a horse. If we don’t let go, we are slower to develop. Meng’s boat stays a little longer and suffers a bit more suffering. But for the Chinese people and the country, I feel a little more comfortable. If the country takes a lot of benefits in exchange for Huawei’s survival, I always feel sorry for my country.

If the United States says “Ren Zhengfei has a little money to improve it,” I can consider it; the United States said that “5G technology poses a threat to US security.” We can completely transfer 5G technology and production process systems to US companies, and let the United States develop on 5G basis. 6G, shortening the technological development process in the United States. I am willing to do this because it is to sacrifice ourselves without sacrificing the interests of others in China. Otherwise, I will walk down the street in the future and others will marry me.

Joe McDonald: You mentioned that some people think that Huawei or 5G technology may pose a security threat. I would like to ask what Huawei is doing now and what it plans to do in the future to deal with or resolve the concerns of the United States, Australia and other governments, to prove that technology is safe and will not pose a security threat, so that it can penetrate the global 5G market.

Ren Zhengfei: I think if the United States and Australia don’t want to understand that 5G is just an advanced tool. Before it is worried about its security, it is best not to buy Huawei’s 5G and related products, and wait for the world to prove that it is safe to buy again. I personally think that 5G is just a tool, a tool to support the existence of artificial intelligence in the future, and the tool itself has no security problems. Second, the future data of the tools will be gathered in the core network. The core network is in the hands of the operators of sovereign countries. These operators operate on the territory of sovereign countries and are governed by the laws of sovereign countries. The law has the power to manage its data. There is nothing. Fundamental security issues.

We believe that there are no security issues and we are working hard in this regard. Huawei has evolved from a small company. The software is not so scientific. I hope to make more efforts in the scientific nature of the next software, including network security and GDPR privacy protection, which can be implemented in the whole network.

Joe McDonald: In the past three months, there have been some protests in Hong Kong. What impact does this situation have on Huawei? After all, Hong Kong and Shenzhen are separated by a sea. Hong Kong is also an important commercial center for Huawei. How do these protests in Hong Kong affect US-China relations and Huawei?

Ren Zhengfei: First, the mainland and Hong Kong are one country, two systems, not as simple as one river. For example, we are separated from other counties and rivers, and one cross has passed, but the mainland and Hong Kong have borders and customs after all. One country, two systems, Hong Kong implements a free capitalist system, the mainland implements a socialist system, and there is no real integration between “well water” and “river water.” The law enforced in Hong Kong allows freedom of parade. We can understand that it is only bad to have some violence.

Second, things in Hong Kong have nothing to do with us. Huawei is doing a good job of making up the hole of the “bad aircraft” and letting the “aircraft” fly back. Now we are concerned about whether we can survive the US sanctions against Huawei, do not care about their concerns, do not study it, or study the impact of the US entity list on us and how to improve our production.

Joe McDonald: We are very concerned about the future direction of Huawei technology. What do you think are the most important emerging technologies that have not yet developed? In which technical areas will Huawei make key investments?

Ren Zhengfei: The emerging technology in the future should be intelligent computing, from intelligent computing to artificial intelligence. 5G is just a supporting platform that supports artificial intelligence to achieve a platform with low latency and high bandwidth. It is just a tool, not a result.

Joe McDonald: In the face of US pressure, how does Huawei adjust its R&D strategy? Assuming that the list of entities and the corresponding restrictions persist, Huawei will have to be self-sufficient on the parts. So, in what areas does Huawei need to be self-sufficient or not dependent on US suppliers? How to achieve this?

Ren Zhengfei: The list of entities in the United States cannot be revoked because there is no one in the United States who can stand up and yell to cancel the list of entities against Huawei. Fighting Huawei is politically correct in the United States. It is right for Americans to stand up and step on Huawei. Americans may help Huawei to be attacked by groups. Therefore, we have prepared for the long-term existence of the entity list.

In the short run, we have to make up for some of the previous shortcomings; in the long run, in the face of future development, we still have to have a broad vision, strengthen international cooperation, and resolutely support the division of labor and cooperation under globalization, in new technologies such as artificial intelligence and cloud. The aspect was successful. If it is not successful in new technology, we may be marginalized and die. If the United States is decoupled from China in science and technology, we may not easily be supported by some advanced elements of the United States. Will we be in the midst of development? This is possible. This requires more efforts from Chinese scientists and research institutions.

Ken Moritsugu: To what extent does the list of entities and the pressure from the US to Huawei affect Huawei’s own strategic adjustment? Last year, the vast majority of people talked about Huawei about 5G deployment. Now they are talking about the list of entities, and Huawei needs to further reduce its dependence on US suppliers. How much do you or Huawei need to adjust the strategy based on the current situation? How does this adjustment affect Huawei and its future development?

Ren Zhengfei: First of all, the list of US entities did not hit our strategy, but it was helpful. We cut down some unimportant edge products and gathered them into the main channel to make the main products. In the past, because we could not control the distribution of the budget at the grassroots level, we made some small products and now we are determined to cut them down. In the reform process of the R&D organization, we cut 46% of the departments and transferred the excellent employees of these departments to the main product line, so our main products will do better, not worse. You saw our products in the exhibition hall yesterday. If you have the opportunity to visit other companies, but also look at their products, a comparison, we know why we are so confident to lead the world.

The purpose of such a list of entities against Huawei cannot be achieved. When the list of entities comes out, I hope that Huawei will die. As a result, Huawei not only does not die, but also lives better, which is not consistent with its purpose. Conversely, it has a greater impact on our friends, because they have supplied hundreds of millions and billions of dollars to us. Suddenly the United States will not allow them to supply, and the short-term financial losses will be greatly affected, because Wall Street is still very Pay attention to the value of stocks.

I think that the damage to the United States by the list of entities is really more real than ours. The list of entities should be cancelled and should not be retained. However, we also believe that cancellation is unlikely, and Huawei is ready to cancel without long-term cancellation.

Joe McDonald: You mentioned 5G, how many US technologies and components are there in Huawei 5G products? To what extent does the entity list affect the sales of Huawei 5G products and 5G technologies?

Joe McDonald: Huawei has many foreign employees and employs many more experienced technicians and experts. It is unusual among Chinese companies. What are the advantages of using foreign employees compared to all Chinese employees? What are the difficulties and challenges?

Ren Zhengfei: First of all, different countries, different nationalities, and different cultures have conflicts with each other. Such conflicts are just complementary advantages, because there is vitality in conflict. In different national environments, the activation of diversity culture can help our products lead the world. The United States is the most advanced, most developed, and most technologically advanced country in the world. The biggest feature is the immigrant society. A large number of outstanding people in the world have gone to the United States, which has created the development of the United States today. Of course, we still can’t reach the level of the United States, but we have introduced some “gamma globulins”, which can stimulate the change of thinking of Huawei employees. Therefore, it is good for these foreign employees to enter Huawei.

We are also localizing overseas. Chinese employees are sent overseas. Many places are not used to it. Some of the work does not require Chinese employees. It allows local foreign employees to do it. On the one hand, the cost is low, and on the other hand, it is also a local country. Provided employment opportunities and trained talents.

Joe McDonald: Some people in foreign countries are more picky about Huawei. Who controls Huawei’s company? Who has the decision-making power in Huawei? We now see that the top board and CEO of Huawei organization are Chinese. Does Huawei consider introducing foreign employees on the board of directors or appointing a foreign employee to serve as the company’s CEO, thus further earning foreign trust. If it is not within your consideration, why not consider it?

Ren Zhengfei: First of all, foreign employees must have this ability. Second, foreign employees must work for Huawei for 25 years and rise from the grassroots level to understand the structure of the entire company. Some Western CEOs have changed like “walking lights”. For a few times, this company is gone. Because this CEO does not understand the actual situation at the grassroots level, thinking that drinking wine and talking about philosophy can lead the company.

Some of our country representatives and product line supervisors are already foreign employees, and a large number of senior experts and Fellow are expatriate employees. Of course, you are also welcome to recommend us to the CEO and the chairman of the board. You can send it to Africa first, go to the island of Comoros to exercise “one person, one kitchen, one dog”, and then go to some places for technical training. You are fully aware of Huawei’s business and future. It is also possible to come up.

Why are many Western companies doing bad now? Because the board of directors of Western companies is picking people everywhere, the person chosen is very powerful. They come here to take advantage of the leverage and enlarge the product a lot. If they can’t sell it, they will lower the price and may sell the company to death.

Joe McDonald: If Huawei is going to appoint a board member or a foreigner at the CEO level, will the Chinese Communist Party bring trouble to Huawei? From a political perspective, will it change the nature of Huawei? Do you think that appointing foreign executives is a hindrance to Huawei?

Ken Moritsugu: We heard yesterday that you like to chat with employees, drink tea, drink coffee, and encourage Huawei employees to go out and drink tea and coffee with others. At present, Huawei is already a big company, and you still continue to do so. My question is, when you are communicating with employees, are there any employees who are worried about Huawei’s future because of US pressure? Or are everyone not worried? Why are you not worried? If you are still confident in the current situation, how do you give your employees confidence?

Ren Zhengfei: First of all, it is not that I give them confidence, but that they are aware of our possible success in our work from our own work, full of confidence. We can’t preach to employees like pastors, let them believe in our stories, but they see hope in their actual work and can make a big contribution to the company. In particular, after Huawei was hit by the physical list, it stimulated them more energy and the ability to solve problems is stronger, so they are more confident.

Joe McDonald: I want to talk to you about your life and how your life experience affects Huawei’s development. You are a native of Guizhou. Guizhou is one of the poorest provinces in China. Your township is also a poor township. How did you grow from a poor child in Guizhou to one of the most successful entrepreneurs in China?

Ren Zhengfei: I don’t know why I will go this step, but I once said that if I can’t get into college, raising pigs may also be a pig. I think that I am serious about what I do, and I can do whatever I want.

Some time ago I went to the Great Northern Wilderness Tour. I said that if I was a knowledgeable youth in Beidahuang, I would make a village in Beidahuang a noodle processing factory, and use the wheat from Beidahuang to make all kinds of noodles and noodles. Let the people of the whole village become members of our company, and everyone will share the success. Because we don’t do high-tech, we process raw materials into noodles, and we won’t fail. In China, there is a village called “Nanjie Village”. In Henan, it has been collectively struggling and has been very successful. There is also a village called “Huaxi Village”. Huaxi Village does things like steel, but the peasants cannot keep up with the progress of the times in the steel issue, so they have declined. If I can’t take college, raise pigs, make noodles… It may be the champion, because I am serious. It was entirely accidental to go to Huawei this road, not necessarily.

So don’t think that when I was a child, I had a great ideal. When I was young, my ideal was to eat a white-faced steamed bun because I hadn’t eaten it. Second, I could go to college, leave my mom and dad, and go to other provinces to have a look, because I have never I have never been out of the province, I don’t know what the province is like, I am very eager to leave this place. Therefore, I didn’t build the idea of ​​doing something big from an early age. I just worked tirelessly on one thing. If I understand a thing too much, it is easy to succeed. Poverty does not give me the elements that must be successful, and there is no inevitability.

When you were very young, you formed a serious personality. How did you form this serious quality, and you will continue to do it when you choose one thing?

The place where we grow up is very poor. There is nothing to play with. The simple things that can be played repeatedly are mud, stone, and bird… These characters may form a character. For the formation of personality, I don’t have the knowledge of psychology. I don’t know how to summarize it. Maybe it is curiosity.

Joe McDonald: We have seen Tian Tao before. He wrote a book about Huawei. He said that he asked 50 people who are most influential to you in your life. Everyone said it was your mother. Is this really true? If so, how did your mother affect you?

Ren Zhengfei: My understanding of my parents is the same as that of today’s young children. The biggest feature of today’s young children is to ignore their parents. For example, when they come back from abroad, they don’t call “Dad, Mom”. They communicate with others every day, and they don’t want to say a word to Mom and Dad. I did the same in the past. I realized the greatness of their personality and character after my father and mother died. When they were alive, I could not understand it. I also felt that they were very annoyed. So, how much influence parents have on my personality is hard to say.

My father is a middle school principal. My mother is a class teacher and math teacher in high school. In addition to teaching, she has to manage the lives of seven children. Without a babysitter, she must cook for herself. She will cook for 10 minutes during the break. Then rushed back to class, and two dishes were fried in the class. These two dishes are extremely simple and may not be called dishes. This is the living condition.

My father was once considered a capitalist and was kept in a cowshed. His wages fell sharply. My mother worked hard and hard, because there is no education, not a college graduate. The monthly salary is only 40 yuan, which is 7-8 dollars, to manage the life of the whole family. And our children have grown up. It doesn’t matter if the boys wear a little patch, but the sisters have to face them. When they have a college girl, they will wear the old clothes for them. My mother wore some patches and patches of clothes. In my brother’s words, the people in the teaching and research room were not willing to sit with her, let alone she was a wealthy wife. So, if it is said that her personality has had a great impact on us, I don’t know, only know that she is weird. When we want to understand, when we want to honor our parents, they are no longer there. The biggest regret left in this life is that there is no good respect for parents.

My mother only has a junior high school education level. Through self-study to improve her teaching level, more than 90% of the high school students she teaches can enter the university, which shows how much she has to pay. My mother participated in the anti-Japanese song squad at the age of fifteen or 16 and sang anti-Japanese songs everywhere. At that time, there was no Communist Party in those areas.

It may be that the Kuomintang’s peripheral organization was organized. After liberation, it was carried out with political burdens. This spiritual “cross”. She has seven children, and she has to eat and dress. Although her father is the principal, it is not in the same place. It is far away and can’t control us. It is all the mother who takes us. In such a complicated situation, what time does she have to talk to us? I want to come today, maybe after a meal or two, sitting in the pot and talking.

After they died, we reflect on their understanding is not enough to condemn, so today we are not going to condemn their children to ignore us, at that time we did not think of their parents. Therefore, how much influence parents have on us is hard to say. I think, acquired knowledge society, the greater the learning acquired, rather than simply a large blood parental influence, or is “born dragon, chicken born chicken, mouse burrowing born children,” the family origin.

Joe McDonald: Is there any example of Huawei’s strategy embodied in the process of solving problems? Examples of PHS before someone mentioned to reflect the strategy of Huawei, Huawei was made on whether PHS has been making. How do you see this business for PHS?

Ren: PHS in China is the emergence of a “freak”, the “freak” institutional form, not natural growth out. Because China’s 1800M frequency, surplus 55M, this 55M frequency can be divided into telecommunications, telecommunications can be on GSM, there is no need to go to PHS. However, this 55M will not be assigned to telecommunications. Telecom should find a product that is not subject to frequency. The frequency signal of PHS PHS is very weak. It is a home phone. If they enhance it, they will make a social call. PHS is a temporary product, because telecommunications is not wireless, it is used to replace wireless. I think that strategy is to look at the problem in the long run. What is the demand of this society is very important. PHS is a product with no future. It will consume a lot of energy. How to focus strategic power on promising areas in the future?

Joe McDonald: We have also learned from other places that there is still a lot of controversy in the matter of PHS, even because this thing caused internal division. Can you tell me about the situation at the time?

Ren Zhengfei: We are not afraid of external pressure. We will not do it anyway. If we do not do it internally, what if Huawei is really ruined by my judgment and died?

At that time, Huawei was under great pressure to survive. In that case, we still focused on products that are 3GPP standards. This process has gone through eight years. There are many people inside who are writing reports to make PHS. They want to make more money. They feel that PHS is very simple and can be used. Every time I saw a report, it was a heart-wrenching affliction, and the pain was overwhelming. Maybe the depression became serious at that time. It was not until eight years later that China decided to put a 3G license, and our heart was really put down.

Joe McDonald: You mentioned depression just now. You have told employees before that you are under tremendous pressure from around 2000, and often wake up at night, thinking about how to pay employees and even suicidal thoughts. I want to confirm if this is true? If it is true, can you tell the story?

Ken Moritsugu: Can you ask, what have you learned from this painful experience? What changes have you made to you? How did you finally overcome this challenge?

Ren Zhengfei: I can’t learn anything about it, because pain has nothing to gain. If we “have a slap in the east and a stick in the west”, it is doomed to failure. We should be determined to work hard in the right direction before we can succeed. Later, we called the goal of “the direction is roughly correct.” The absolute correct direction does not exist, and it is almost correct. Second, the organization vibrant and aligned in one place. This is a bet on science and technology, and it is possible to make a mistake. Fortunately, the gambling was right, the pressure was released, and later I didn’t want to commit suicide.

Ren Zhengfei: Today’s crisis should be only one-tenth of the pressure at that time, because now we are full of confidence in the crisis, and the crisis at that time is an unknowable fear. Now I am not afraid. At that time, I was afraid that my spirit would be greatly tortured before I developed depression. Now we are making up the “hole” step by step. The “hole” from the 5G to the core network is all completed. Now we have to make up the “hole” of the terminal. The “hole” of the terminal is one or two. We are confident to use Completed in two or three years. Therefore, we are still very confident now. There was no confidence at that time. Second, we also have money now. At that time, people were not in the right place and there was no money.

The pain at that time also included the pain of identification. Because we are private enterprises, it was doubtful that we did not have political status and earned money. Today’s pain is that the United States’ market and commerce against Huawei can’t beat our lives; my political life can only be attacked by China, and the United States cannot fight political life, and I will not go to the United States. Therefore, I am in a calmer mood now.

I have already withdrawn from the historical arena. Why are you doing it for a while now? Because I found that I was quite useful during times of crisis, so I stood up and worked for a few more years. I may have dealt with you many times in the past few years. You can ask any questions, and I can answer you truthfully.

For three decades, Huawei has been suffering, no joy, and the pain in each link is different. Today, for the first time, you have come up and compared the pain of 2000 with the pain of the present. I have never thought about it. thank you all.

16. Joe McDonald: You are now in your 70s. Most Chinese business leaders have retired at this age. Many people have been praised for their success. You are still in the 70s and are involved in the Sino-US trade science and technology war. How do you feel? After all, I have achieved such great success before, and now I am facing such a conflict. How would you spend it?

Great, if you can’t find something to do, you can work as a part of the public relations department and have a little entertainment. Who made me physically so good, I will do it for a while.

Tell you a few jokes, can you? I had a medical examination in the United States, Greenberg asked me to go, let his private doctor give me a medical examination; I went back to China, went to 301 Hospital and Concord Hospital for examination, my heart and stomach are younger, heart and Blood vessels, there is no scar in one place. At present, my organs and other aspects are very good, why? Maybe it’s because I don’t have bad habits, never smoke and drink, don’t sing and dance, have no habits, eat simply, and listen to the doctor’s words, the body is very good. Now that I am free, I have no habit of taking care of children. Instead of being idle, I might as well work for Huawei and continue to work.

I followed my wife to travel to Bolivia for the past two years. I don’t feel much in Bolivia at an altitude of more than 4,000 meters. Bolivian employees told me that the oxygen content there is only 0.5 lower than that of Shenzhen. I don’t know if he is telling the truth or falsehood. Some time ago I went to Nepal to see the project, took a helicopter to the flat near the site, I climbed to 5200 meters on foot to see the base station, the heart can not stand the feeling. Of course not as hard as a flat, but I can’t stand it. The two years of walking were not so powerful. The young people followed me in the first two years, and they were soaking their feet. I am still leaving.

Joe McDonald: Asking a question about recent news coverage, we saw a report in The Wall Street Journal that Huawei employees helped the local government locate or harass the government’s political opponents in two African countries. I would like to ask: What is Huawei’s position in this regard? What is your personal policy regarding helping the government carry out political activities? Do you agree to help the government do this kind of thing? Is Huawei willing to help these governments in Africa to do such things?

Ken Moritsugu: I want to ask another technical related question. The technology is very powerful and can be used to do good things and can also be used to do bad things. Both Google and Facebook are having some debate: as a technology provider, are they responsible for how their technology is being used? How do you see technology? Is it just providing technology for others to use? Or do you think you are responsible for how technology is used?

I believe that Huawei provides technology and we guarantee compliance with cybersecurity and GDPR privacy protection systems. But the network is ultimately controlled by the sovereign state. The sovereign state manages and controls the network through the operator. Therefore, this is not a problem that Huawei can and cannot do. After the installation of Huawei equipment, operators will pay attention to you and track you all the time. Otherwise, if you pick up the phone, how can you pass it? The process of fulfilling this behavior must abide by international law and abide by local national laws, rather than being controlled by Huawei employees. Therefore, a uniform law should be drawn up internationally.

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